03 June 2009

In His Own Words


6 April 2009: "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation" ~ President Barack Obama


2 June 2009: "If you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world" ~ President Barack Obama

Really? Wow.

Are these statements a reflection of the truth? Can they be supported by facts? No.

According to the federal government's most recent census data, both statements by Obama are patently absurd. Let's look at the facts:

% of United States population professing some form of the Christian faith (Protestant & Catholic): 75.2% (That's over three-fourths of all Americans).

% of Unites States population professing to be of the Muslim faith: .6% - (That's six-tenths of one percent).

The President must be using that new math.

10 comments:

James F. Epperson said...

Neither of your objections are the slam-dunks you think they are. We do NOT consider ourselves a Christian nation in the sense that we do not have a Christian theocracy here. Now as to the number of Muslims, 0.006 x 350,000,000 = 2,100,000. Now, I have no idea how that compares with Muslim nations. A quick look at the information in a Wikipedia article suggests the President over-stated his case.

Brett S. said...

Richard,

Could you provide links to where President Obama said these things? Your blog is the first I've heard of them. If he truly did say especially the second comment, I'm wondering why and in what context this occurred.

Richard G. Williams, Jr. said...

Hello Brett. Sure thing. I've put links to the quotes in the dates.

Best,
RGW

Richard G. Williams, Jr. said...

"A quick look at the information in a Wikipedia article suggests the President over-stated his case."

Ya think?

Richard G. Williams, Jr. said...

BTW James, I'd defer to the Fed's census info over WP for fact-checking.

Ok, so you concur with Obama's statement that we're not a Christian nation (though our founding documents and history would refute that) but, you say nothing about Obama's contention that we're a "Muslim country" - you just ran off the road and hit a tree James.

Michael Lynch said...

Depending on the estimate, the U.S. ranks somewhere between 34th and 50th in terms of countries with the largest number of Muslims.

By "largest Muslim countries," maybe Obama means "countries with more Muslims than Martians."

--ML

Vince said...

I think it's important to understand the context of the April 6 quote, which I think was part of Obama's speech in Turkey. The content/context of the speech and the region's last 100 years experience with genocide and sectarian violence points to a more accurate interpretation: "America is not an _exclusively_ Christian nation. You will not be killed because you practice a different faith."

It's easy to understand, though, why the same sentence can have entirely different meanings based on if you interpret it through:
1) America's Culture Wars, c. 1990s
2) The memory of a century of sectarian violence and genocide in Turkey (and other remnants of the Ottoman Empire, such as the Balkans), where "considering" yourself an X nation meant killing everyone who was not X. The pressures of nationalism built around a single religion had pretty nasty consequences in many places.

Richard G. Williams, Jr. said...

Michael:

You might have a point.

;o)

Vince:

Interesting comment, especially in light of what happened to the Armenian Christians in Turkey in 1915.

In light of that history, Obama's concerns seems to have been mis-directed.

Brboyd said...

Richard,

Since when has the truth gotten in the way of Obama's goals?

Arthur B. Breedlove said...

"In light of that history, Obama's concerns seems to have been mis-directed."

I think that Obama's comments are a calculation designed to appeal and acquiece to the Muslim world. I would liken it to the Carter Administrations handling of the Iranian hostage crisis, and his approach to the Mideast peace process. I think this would also explain Obama's celebrity status in the Middle East. I have noticed this phenomenon recently while residing in the Middle East.

Vince:

I find your second point rather curious in that the "sectarian violence", and "genocide" that you speak of resulted in the expulsion of Christians from Turkey, Bosnia, and Kosovo.It was the Armenian and Serb Christians that suffered under the Ottoman yoke. The end result was the creation of Islamic states where none previously existed. Perhaps, it is the CHRISTIANS that Obama should attempt to reassure.