31 October 2009

Wicked Old Hags, Ghosts Of Yankee Soldiers, & Bobby Lee

31 October - Reformation Day



Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms. Powerful. One man, with courage and principle, can make a difference.

30 October 2009

The Heritage Of Blogging
















"America’s political bloggers trace their heritage, their place in the body politic, to the Colonial era. Most of today’s political bloggers would have been quite comfortable defying the British Stamp Act of 1765, were they around 244 years ago. The Stamp Act was designed to impose government content control on the then 23 newspapers which served about two million Colonialists. Not one Colonial newspaper bought the properly stamped paper. In fact, the political content of the papers increased, to the alarm of the British authorities. On the eve of the Revolution, there were 31 papers in the Colonies, by the time of the Constitution’s ratification, there were 92, and by 1835, there were 1,200 newspapers serving 15 million Americans."

More here
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(The image depicts British officials fleeing from rioting colonists in opposition to Stamp Act.)

The Theme Is Reconciliation



Thanks to fellow CW blogger, Kraig McNutt for bringing this to my attention.

29 October 2009

Jeff Davis At Home

(Photo from the Lexington News-Gazette site.)

Friend, fellow Virginian, and internationally renowned sculptor, Gary Casteel, recently escorted the new Jeff Davis statue to Beauvoir. According to the Beauvoir website:


"The statue will eventually be placed in front of the new Jefferson Davis Presidential Library and Museum."

**Update: Regarding the relationship between Jim Limber and the Davis family, and to combat the agenda-driven, half-truths spread elsewhere, I would recommend the piece by John Coski of the Museum of the Confederacy.

"The evidence suggests that he [Limber] was a member of the Davis family in the same way that slaves, servants, and other dependents were members of white families—with real mutual responsibility and affection."~ John Coski

I think John presents a good, objective, overall view of the Limber/Davis story and relationship.

**Update 2: To correct the misinformation and distortions being propagated by another blogger, Coski's piece on Jim Limber is not being "used" for any purpose here, other than to provide balance and tell the complete story about Davis and Limber. The link I provided allows readers to read the whole piece written by Coski. Most readers are informed and intelligent enough to come to their own conclusions about the complicated relationship between Davis and Limber. As I already stated, Coski's piece presents an "
objective, overall view of the Limber/Davis story and relationship" - something which those who are just pushing their agenda are incapable of.

(This blogger can't even get the artist's name correct. So much for his "accuracy" and attention to detail. By the way, how does one "use" someone's writings if they provide a link to the whole article, so others can read it for themselves, and refer to the piece as "objective"? The utterly ridiculous and false assumptions being made by this blogger border on the incoherent. I'd be embarrassed.)





Follow Up To Previous Post

Here's a good example as to why we should distrust government: Public unveiling of the public option was closed to the public. Hmmm . . . perhaps Queen Pelosi is suppressing dissent and protests so her carefully choreographed dog and pony show can create the illusion of unity and public support. "The audience at the crowded press conference included Hill staffers, union workers, health care providers and students, according to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who thanked them for attending." What a phony.

More On A Great Virginia Tradition . . .

Distrust of government . . .

In the last several years, and most significantly since the election of the current administration and  Congress, the trend towards increased Federal Government control over every aspect of the lives of Virginia’s citizens has been alarming.  The time is now to turn the tide away from destructive big government policies, toward a less intrusive, less oppressive form of government; a return to the first principles intended by the founding fathers. I will apply these founding principles to every aspect of my work as your next Attorney General.  For this reason, I have chosen the Gadsden Flag as a symbol for my campaign.

"In the last several years, and most significantly since the election of the current administration and Congress, the trend towards increased Federal Government control over every aspect of the lives of Virginia’s citizens has been alarming. The time is now to turn the tide away from destructive big government policies, toward a less intrusive, less oppressive form of government; a return to the first principles intended by the founding fathers. I will apply these founding principles to every aspect of my work as your next Attorney General. For this reason, I have chosen the Gadsden Flag as a symbol for my campaign."

And Virginia's flag symbolizes that great tradition and our founding principles . . .











This healthy distrust of the government is an important aspect of American Exceptionalism. I worked in state government for 12 years. "Trust" me, that "distrust" is well-placed.

27 October 2009

The American Idea - Distrust Government

"At the heart of the American idea is the deep distrust and suspicion the founders of our nation had for government, distrust and suspicion not shared as much by today’s Americans. Some of the founders’ distrust is seen in our Constitution’s language such as Congress shall not: abridge, infringe, deny, disparage, violate and deny. If the founders did not believe Congress would abuse our God-given rights, they would not have provided those protections."
~ Professor Walter Williams, 21 October 29

More here.

and . . .

"We are trying on every front to increase the role of government." ~ Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA), 26 October 2009

More here.

Which is why Americans distrust their government more and more with each passing day.

26 October 2009

Jefferson-Hemings Controversy Not Settled


Despite what some believe, the Jefferson-Hemings controversy has not been settled--and may never be.

"Contrary to popular belief, Thomas Jefferson did not father the children of his slave, Sally Hemings, according to William G. Hyland Jr., author of 'In Defense of Thomas Jefferson: The Sally Hemings Sex Scandal.' It was his brother, Randolph, "a ne'er-do-well,'' who had a history of consorting with his brother's slaves." ~ From BlackVoices.com

"Although the relationship between Jefferson and Sally Hemings has been for many years, and will surely continue to be, a subject of intense interest to historians and the public, the evidence is not definitive, and the complete story may never be known. The Foundation encourages its visitors and patrons, based on what evidence does exist, to make up their own minds as to the true nature of the relationship."
~ From Monticello.org

I've never explored this controversy to any extent, other than to read a piece a while back (I don't recall where) regarding the DNA evidence and Randolph Jefferson--TJ's younger brother; which the author of this book also addresses.

What Do These Trends Mean - Historically Speaking?

"The Wall Street Journal has surpassed USA Today as the top-selling newspaper in the United States. The Journal's average Monday-Friday circulation edged up 0.6 percent to 2.02 million -- making it the only daily newspaper in the top 25 to see an increase." - Details here.

and . . .

"Fox News has pulled off another dominant quarter, claiming the top 10 cable news programs in 3Q 2009 and growing against 3Q 2008, while CNN and MSNBC lost substantial portions of their election-boom audience. Fox News averaged 2.25 million total viewers in prime time for the third quarter, up 2% over the previous year. That's more than CNN (946,000, down 30%) and MSNBC (788,000, down 10%) combined."- Details here.

and . . .

"Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009, confirming a finding that Gallup first noted in June. Forty percent of Americans describe their political views as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 20% as liberal. This marks a shift from 2005 through 2008, when moderates were tied with conservatives as the most prevalent group." - Details here.

Anyone care to analyze these trends, given the historical perspectives of the media's relationship with Presidential administrations and Congress? My personal opinion is that the current administration, along with the current Congress, has ignored the lessons of history and overreached. Drunk with power, they have painted themselves in a corner. What do you think?

24 October 2009

History & Politics

"One of the principal reasons that policymakers should study history is to avoid repeating the mistakes of their predecessors. Mistakes in the realm of economics, social policy, defense, and foreign policy all come to mind . . . By knowledge of history, I do not mean a professional historian who grasps all the nuances of what has occurred in the world over the last 500 years . . . What I have in mind is something else . . . a practical understanding of what has worked in the past and what has not."

Read this interesting piece here at The American Thinker.

23 October 2009

Obama Thesis A Hoax

Thanks to Ken for pointing out that the "Obama Thesis" post was a hoax. My apologies to all, including the President. There's enough true things to worry about without making things up.

;o)

Choosing Mao Over Madison

". . . Anita Dunn? She's been attacked for extolling Mao's political philosophy in a speech at a high school graduation. But the critics miss the surpassing stupidity of her larger point: She was invoking Mao as support and authority for her impassioned plea for individuality and trusting one's own choices. Mao as champion of individuality? Mao, the greatest imposer of mass uniformity in modern history, creator of a slave society of a near-billion worker bees wearing Mao suits and waving the Little Red Book?"

More and more people in the current administration seem to prefer Mao.

I'll stick with the Virginian.

More here.

22 October 2009

Qualified To Comment

Kevin Levin made more ill-informed comments recently in his continuous obsession with my blog. He dedicated the better part of a whole post to me and said the following regarding my recent post about H.W. Crocker's book:

"I can't believe that Williams actually copied all of those comments into that post."

Amazing, since Levin told me ahead of time to "go ahead and post them on your site if you need them." I did, since he either could not recover them (or didn't want to) after losing them when changing servers. Maybe he was just playing "Gotcha Blogging." How could I have possibly responded to the ridiculous charges in the comments if nobody could read them?

Evidently, Levin also has ESP:

"there is no evidence that Williams reads much of anything."

And this:

"For someone who has never stepped foot on a college campus as student (as far as I can tell) he sure feels comfortable offering commentary about the problems therein."

I've never hidden the fact I did not finish college. That is not something I'm proud of--I wish I had finished. My original intent was to go to UVA and study law--it just so happens that at that point in my life, I was more interested in what was going on at the local bar than I was in what was going on in class. (See, I would have made an excellent lawyer.) But I was a college student in the late 1970's and have returned to my local community college for classes several times since then, as well as taking college level continuing education classes professionally. The most interesting class I had was Western Civ, where Professor Griffin was obsessed with the Hittites. No, I don't recall why, only that answering any of his questions with "the Hittites" guaranteed a better than 50% chance of being corrrect. So, once again, Levin spreads misinformation about that which he knows nothing. (No, I don't anticipate an apology.) By the way, even if Levin was right about what he was implying, (only those involved in education can offer commentary) then following his logic, he has no business offering commentary on homeschooling since he's never done it.

For those who care, I do have extensive technical training in law and finance and hold a professional designation in the financial services industry, but I've never claimed to be anything other than a writer and amateur historian--notwithstanding the fact that I'm a published author, have written for national publications and newspapers, and co-produced two documentary/historical films--one which garnered a national award. The fact I attract so much attention from liberal academics is something I find rather curious and entertaining. Maybe they feel safe taking on someone they deem beneath them. Just imagine what I could do if I was only half as educated as they are. I'd really be dangerous.

All that aside, even if I had never set foot on a college campus, that does not disqualify me (nor anyone else) from commenting on the current state of education in the United States. My wife and I have 6 children and 13 grandchildren--ya think we might me just a little concerned and involved in education? Three of my six children attended college, one completed a degree in history and is state certified to teach. (She wisely chose to homeschool her four daughters instead). My youngest took a break from college recently for motherhood, but plans to complete requirements for degrees in English and history at some point. My wife and I home educated 4 of our children, were very active in leading a group of students in a 4H group we started; including field trips, participation in spelling bees, music competitions, and were involved in several homeschooling organizations. I consider myself every bit as qualified to offer commentary and opinion on educational matters as Mr. Levin. Levin's comments only expose an elitist attitude so common in much of academia. The more he writes, the clearer that becomes.

An Excellent Piece On Homeschooling


From a woman's perspective and from Salon magazine of all places . . .


"Call us crackpots, but our kids spend their days at beaches and museums, not in school." Read the rest of the piece here.

History, especially, can be better taught at home . . . more time to visit museums and battlefields!

Is she committing child abuse?

21 October 2009

Is History Repeating Itself?

A number of historians have discussed the similarities between President Obama and President Lincoln. Most of the similarities that have been pointed out have been positive - no surprise there. But now we have the administration attacking Fox News which, though not as extreme, reminds one of Lincoln's actions against his critics in the press. Certainly not a positive comparison. And certainly not a very smart strategy. As Mark Twain once opined: “Never pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel.” Of course, today, Twain might say, "Never pick a fight with someone who has an endless free supply of pixels." Even the left is becoming uncomfortable with the administration's paranoid strategy.

Now comes additional accusations of an "enemies list."

A top Senate Republican will take to the floor Wednesday morning to suggest that the Obama White House is plotting a political strategy similar to that of ex-President Richard Nixon and may be on the verge of preparing its own “enemies list.”

That accusation reminds us of another President. Attacking one's critics in the press, developing enemies lists -- are we seeing a White House that is becoming isolated and paranoid? I think so and sinking poll numbers would seem to indicate storm clouds on the horizon.

20 October 2009

More Reasons For Homeschooling

"A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in upstate New York has been barred from stepping foot on school grounds for 20 days — for keeping a 2-inch pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car."

More here.

19 October 2009

Elitists And American Exceptionalism

Academic elites reject American Exceptionalism. This topic just won't go away.

"An interesting paradox. Last year, America elected a president who, in attitudes and policies, is closer to the elites of Western Europe than any of his predecessors . . . The late political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset, who wrote a book on American exceptionalism, long noted that Americans are more individualistic and less collectivist than Western Europeans (or Canadians). The election of a president who in many ways seeks to push America in a European direction seems to have increased rather than decreased those differences." More of this interesting and obvious (to most) perspective here.

And here we have the full roster (as December 2008) of Academic elites in the current administration (By that bastion of right-wing, anti-intellectualism. The Washington Post):

"They are almost exclusively products of the nation's elite institutions and generally share a more intellectual outlook than is often the norm in government. "

But here's the most applicable little nugget from the piece:

"The libertarian University of Chicago law professor Richard Epstein, who is not related to Joseph Epstein, worries that the team's exceptionalism [not American] could lead to overly complex policies. "They are really smart people, but they will never take an obvious solution if they can think of an ingenious one. They're all too clever by half," he said. 'These degrees confer knowledge but not judgment. Their heads are on grander themes . . . and they'll trip on obstacles on the ground.'"

More here.

As an aside, many of these intellectuals supported (and still do) economic and social policies that do nothing but cause new problems and exasperate current ones. But hey, they're the ones with credibility. Right.

Speaking Of Academic Elitists


"Academic elitism suggests that in highly competitive academic environments only those individuals who have engaged in scholarship are deemed to have anything worthwhile to say, or do. It suggests that individuals who have not engaged in such scholarship are cranks. It is possible, though, to value serious scholarship without being an academic elitist, of course . . . The peer review of academia process is occasionally cited as suppressing dissent against 'mainstream' theories (part of an overall system of suppression of intellectual dissent). Some sociologists of science argue that peer review makes the ability to publish susceptible to control by elites and to personal jealousy. Reviewers tend to be especially critical of conclusions that contradict their own views, and lenient towards those that accord with them."

Sound familiar? More here.

Case in point. (Be sure and read the comments).


17 October 2009

Wild About Harry

The discussion got rather heated recently over Kevin Levin's post regarding Harry Crocker's The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War. Kevin, along with others including Civil War historian, Brooks Simpson, became rather exercised over Crocker's assertion that "all former Confederates" were barred from holding office during Reconstruction (all being the operative word here). Mr. Simpson, in particular, became rather volcanic in his eruptions against me (including calling me a fraud - not the most prudent thing to do in a public forum), though I had never commented on the particular claim made by Crocker (though I did endorse the book and still do). Professor Simpson's angry, condescending, petty, and rather confused accusations hurled at me border on the bizarre; as if he was releasing something that had been pent up for a very, very long time. Perhaps he was. Just as strange was the fact that Mr. Simpson got me confused with "another" Richard who did comment on Reconstruction and Crocker's assertion regarding all Confederates during Reconstruction. Professor Simpson then bases his "fraud" charge on something I didn't even say and makes the utterly ridiculous and baseless assumption that I've not read the Constitution (based on the comments of the other Richard). Good Lord.

After both Levin and I pointed out there were two Richards commenting, Simpson became defensive, suggesting the apparent "confusion" on his part was purposeful and part of a scheme to "draw me out." However, I believe most folks (including Levin, myself, and two other persons commenting) reading the string of comments could clearly see that Simpson did not know who he was addressing. Then, after offering his defense and saying he really did know who he was addressing, he again attributes what the other gentleman said [the Reconstruction comment] to me and uses this incoherent defense to proclaim me a fraud. Amazing.

You can read the post and comments at the end of this post and judge for yourself. It is one of the most bizarre exchanges in which I've ever been involved.

In any event, Crocker's use of "all" regarding former Confederates being prevented from holding office during Reconstruction was incorrect. Is it reasonable to point out the error? Of course. I never denied that and wrote from the very beginning that I would respond to Crocker's statement and critics here on my blog; which is what I'm doing. Was it ignorance on Mr. Crocker's part, a moment of forgetfulness, carelessness, poor editing, sloppy research, etc? Who knows, but did that error warrant such eye-bulging, red-faced, over-the-top criticism? The assertion/error is not that uncommon. See here, here, and here for just a few examples. (These examples don't say "all" but the assumption could easily be made based on the wording of the text.)

And we have the following example from www.America.gov (the "State Department’s Bureau of International Information Programs (IIP) engages international audiences on issues of foreign policy, society and values to help create an environment receptive to U.S. national interests.") :

"Republicans in Congress decided to implement their own version of Reconstruction. They enacted punitive measures against former rebels and prevented former Confederate leaders from holding office."

Again, no distinction is made as to whether this is "all", some, or a certain class of leaders. Crocker's indiscretion is, while incorrect, not an uncommon one.

And from Digital History, (an academic site developed by the University of Houston, the Chicago Historical Society, The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History, The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, and the National Park Service) we have this entry on the 14th amendment:

"It requires the ex-Confederate states to ratify the 14th Amendment, adopt new state constitutions disqualifying former Confederate officials from holding public office. . ."

Once again, since no distinction is made as to which "former Confederate officials", one could easily assume this meant "all". And, one would also assume that an academic site with such notable resources at their disposal would get it right, don't you think? Perhaps they used Mr. Crocker's book as their source for this entry or maybe those associated with these prestigious academic institutions and this website never read the Constitution and the 14th amendment.

So, again, I pose the question: Did Crocker's mistake warrant such attention or, were there other motivations behind the comments and criticisms on this particular issue? I think the answer is clear, which is the REAL point of Crocker's book in the first place. ;o)

Also, does this error by Crocker suggest that the rest of the book gets it all wrong or that it's not worth reading? If so, then logic would dictate that Simpson and Levin would never read anything written by the noted historians who wrote in The South's Terrible Swift Sword, published by the editors of Military History. In that "collector's edition" issue about Stonewall Jackson, I pointed out 6 mistakes/oversights made by the authors.

I get the distinct impression from both Simpson and Levin that they are really offended by a non-academic like me who is rather vocal about academic elitists and biased history which claims to be objective and apolitical. The constant sneering "lack of credibility" and "lack of knowledge", etc. charges you so often see on Levin's blog aimed at those he views as "beneath" his academic level (or his historical interpretations) betrays the elitist attitude of which I'm so often critical.


The following comments were posted in response to Levin's original post about Crocker's book. Those comments are no longer available, but permission was granted to post them here. Except where relevant, I have used only the initials or first name of the person commenting. I put emphasis on the more relevant comments. All emphasis is mine. I've also added some additional editorial comment which is bracketed in red.

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I thought I might start a little series of posts from The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War by H.W. Crocker III. I would say that such passages are worth a good laugh, but then I step back and realize that these books sell incredibly well both here in the states and overseas. The Lost Cause lives.

Reconstruction: the bad

There had been no segregation in the antebellum South. Plantation slaves lived in cabins within feet of their owner’s house. City slaves lived in brick houses behind their owner’s house. While whites in the North often lived far away from black people, Southern whites lived and worked (and their children played) side by side and thought nothing of it. That changed after the war when the Radical Republicans sent armed regiments of black soldiers into the South as occupation troops and installed black politicians into local and state governments slots, while barring all former Confederates from holding office. (206-07)


1 Harry [not Crocker] September 23, 2009 at 4:17 am

I reviewed this in brief for America’s Civil War. Surprise surprise, Sgt. Carter, someone took offense with my review!!! So I expanded on it a little on my blog, and you can read that here:

http://bullrunnings.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/the-politically-incorrect-guide-to-the-civil-war/

I keep the book on my shelf, but have no idea why. Kind of like a train wreck – can’t help but look.

2 Kevin Levin September 23, 2009 at 4:25 am

Why am I not surprised by that. :) I am using the book this year for my Civil War Memory course. Thanks for the link.

3 DW September 23, 2009 at 4:51 am

I looked through this in a bookstore once but didn’t buy it. I really don’t want to support the guy’s work. I have bought books by James McPherson, Brooks Simpson and Steven Woodworth and feel pretty good about doing my small part to help them continue their work. Thanks for the post. Harry’s right – you can’t help but look. But at least I can keep my money.

4 JE September 23, 2009 at 5:03 am

The book should have been titled “The historically incorrect guide to the Civil War.”

5 CM September 23, 2009 at 5:32 am

Kevin,

Great post…this book is sort of like the Kennedy brother’s ” The south was right” Lite! I am also interested in knowing how you are using it in the classroom?

Harry,

Why am I not suprised that Richard Williams disagreed with your review?

6 Kevin Levin September 23, 2009 at 5:36 am

CM,

Yes, it is the same school of thought that encompasses the Kennedy brothers and the nonsense published by Pelican Press and other specialty presses. What is disappointing is that these books are published by Regnery, which does promote some pretty good work by conservatives of various stripes.

Dan,

I agree that we should try to support competent historians who are trying to broaden and deepen our understanding of this crucial moment in American history rather than reduce it to a cartoon.

7 ST September 23, 2009 at 5:57 am

The casting of the historical narrative of the Civil War as a fight by the Confederacy against northern aggression may, ironically, appeal to citizens in countries outside of the United States who see the US as an imperialist nation. This may, in part, account for the appeal of books such as the one referenced to readers outside of the US. The irony is that the political philosophies of Lost Cause adherents and many of those who see the US as an imperialist nation are often diametrically opposed.

8 Toby September 23, 2009 at 10:10 am

I note that your common reactions mirror almost exactly the reaction of biologists to “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Evolution”.

9 SM September 23, 2009 at 12:59 pm

So emancipation brought segregation and I assume is the reason racism as we know it exists today. By this line of reasoning, one wonders why hordes of freedmen did not beg for a return to the salad days of slavery.

I look forward to your continued posts on this theme. This kind of drivel won’t stand the light of day, and posting it is just the right response.

10 Kevin Levin September 23, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Steven,

Unfortunately, posting it and exposing it for the nonsense that it is is the only thing you can do.

11 JE September 23, 2009 at 3:16 pm

“Unfortunately, posting it and exposing it for the nonsense that it is is the only thing you can do.” — Well, we could have a good collective guffaw, or sit down and cry. I’m not sure which is more warranted :-( [I suppose we could also jail the author, as some academics have suggested. - RW]


12 Richard September 23, 2009 at 4:52 pm

“barring all former Confederates from holding office”

Its my understanding that former Confederates were barred from office right after the war. Reminds me of our plan barring former Bathists from serving in the Iragi government which in turn created an insurgency. AKA Klan during the Civil War.

13 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 12:50 am

Some were barred, but that is quite a different thing from suggesting that “all” were prevented from holding office.

14 BP September 24, 2009 at 8:23 am

Don’t forget that Presidential Reconstruction (Johnson) preceded Congressional Reconstruction (Radical Republican). Johnson encouraged the enactment of “black codes” that effectively stripped African-Americans of whatever benefits emancipation might have given them. It was essentially slavery without calling it slavery. The Radicals (and then Grant when he became President) were reacting to southerners who, after they had lost the war and devastated the country, wanted to go back to the way things had been before the war, as if the war had never occurred. Grant said to satisfy former Confederates, he didn’t know what the North could have done that it didn’t do, without surrendering the results of the war.

15 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 8:27 am

Bob,

I think such a distinction is already to go too far beyond Crocker’s intellectual and interpretive skills. :)

16 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 24, 2009 at 9:22 am

“Johnson encouraged the enactment of “black codes” that effectively stripped African-Americans of whatever benefits emancipation might have given them. It was essentially slavery without calling it slavery.”

Bob – so, in your opinion, the North’s victory really didn’t “free the slaves?”

17 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 10:02 am

Richard,

The 13th Amendment to the Constitution freed the slaves. Johnson’s actions applied serious limitations on that freedom as well as any meaningful notion of civil rights. Distinctions matter here.

18 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 24, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Right Kevin.

Bob . . . ?

19 BP September 24, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Richard G.,

I know you are smarter than that, I read your blog.

For anyone else who might not get this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Codes_(United_States)

(I know wiki’s not the best source, but it’s a place to start.)

20 Brooks Simpson September 24, 2009 at 1:10 pm

Richard … I assume that you know something about Reconstruction, so you would know that former Confederates did in fact hold office after the American Civil War. If you didn’t know that, then that says something about your knowledge of Reconstruction. I’d think you would be against bad history, regardess of the source. But if you don’t know history, it’s hard to see how you can distinguish between good history and bad history, and that would render moot your criticism of other historians.

21 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Bob,

Thanks for the link. It’s unfortunate that this even needs to be pointed out to Richard Williams.

Richard,

Instead of worrying all day long about the evil liberal bias rearing its ugly head why not worry about your public statement about this particular book. This is what you said on March 21, 2009 in response to a review of the book by Harry Smeltzer: http://oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com/2009/03/harry-on-harry-and-me-on-harry-and.html

“Certainly, Crocker’s collection of factoids and essays are not meant to be a scholarly, in-depth study of the WBTS. The book is, however, meant to challenge some popular myths surrounding the war and do it in a popular, somewhat witty, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, entertaining style; which it does very well. Crocker is a gifted writer.”

I guess for you “challenging myths” involves getting the basic historical facts wrong. You have no credibility on this issue whatsoever.

22 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 1:29 pm

Brooks,

You mean the facts according to an liberal/academic/elite like yourself? Like I said he has no credibility on this topic, but I am sure he will say that we’ve interpreted his words incorrectly. Even worse, all Williams has to know is a little postwar history of his own beloved Virginia to know how absurd that statement is.

23 Brooks Simpson September 24, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Richard–Upon rereading your post I did not realize how bizarre your “understanding” of American history might be. Here’s what you said:

“Its my understanding that former Confederates were barred from office right after the war. Reminds me of our plan barring former Bathists from serving in the Iragi government which in turn created an insurgency. AKA Klan during the Civil War.”

Now, Richard, let’s explore the record, shall we?

1. The KKK’s roots are to be found after the American Civil War, in December 1865, in Pulaski, Tennessee: it grew over the next several years. I had assumed you knew that the Confederacy had collapsed before the end of 1865. (Note: there is an interesting loophole here that Richard might try to exploit. Let’s see if he can do so.)

2. I assume you knew that former Confederates served in office after the Civil War, including in Virginia. Have you ever heard of James L. Kemper, for example? (I’m not forgetting William Mahone, Kevin). How about Benjamin Humphreys, governor of Mississippi from 1865 to 1868? And how dare you forget that Fitz Lee served as governor of Virginia! I guess you forgot John W. Daniel, too.

3. The notion of barring certain (not all) Confederates from serving in certain offices was advanced in the Fourteenth Amendment, which was not proposed until 1866 and not ratified until 1868, by which time the KKK was a going concern. So the KKK’s not a reaction to the Fourteenth Amendment. Far from it. The Fourteenth Amendment is one of several responses to white supremacist southern terrorism. Moreover, if you had actually read the amendment, you would know that Congress could decide to remove those restrictions.

Here’s the clause, Richard, just so we know that from now on you can’t profess ignorance:

“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

Now, if you had actually read the Constitution, one of those sacred documents of American exceptionalism, you would know that. The above clause does not prohibit every Confederate from holding any office. However, we are forced to conclude that you celebrate a document which you have not even read, let alone understand.

Richard, we now know why you protest the lack of knowledge of American history. You’ve been suffering from that very problem for some time. That you offer a criticism of current American foreign policy based on a bizarre misreading of the past simply adds to concern about the impact of such ignorance on our current civil discourse.

24 BP September 24, 2009 at 2:51 pm

Is the Richard who made the comment about Confederates not holding office the same Richard G. Williams who asked me the question about slavery? [No, though Simpson is apparently confused and thinks so. - RW] Same person or do we have two different Richards here?

25 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 2:53 pm

Brooks,

I think you have the wrong Richard in mind. That passage is not attributed to Richard Williams. That said, I think that last paragraph applies to much of his silly political commentary. Thanks for such a thorough response. [And for a response that is based on confusion. - RW]

26 Kevin Levin September 24, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Bob,

There are two Richards. Richard Williams asked you the question about slavery.

27 Richard version 2.0 [Not Richard Williams - RW] September 24, 2009 at 5:30 pm

I am ignorant. Got no problem saying it. My thoughts were along the lines of the 40 years right after the war. The rise of the Klan and in my area it was the Red Shirts. They used power and intimidation for political gain. But I guess from the comments made the former good ole boys never left power. My bad. Better stop drinking them buds and watching nascar and read a little.

28 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 25, 2009 at 11:41 am

Bob – thanks for the compliment. It was a rhetorical question meant to illustrate “over-simplifying” is an easy charge to make, i.e. there are many who say the WBTS “freed the slaves.” As KL notes, well, not exactly. Your accurate statement suggests that worthy goal may best have been accomplished some other way than the loss of 600,000 + lives. Of course, we can play “what if” all day.

Kevin – are all posters required to expound on the minutia on their knowledge of WBTS history in every post to have credibility, or is that just required of me? You really didn’t see the leading in my question?! As Bob would say, you’re smarter than that.

As far as “getting facts wrong” I’ve pointed out a number of your doing that very thing on various occasions on my blog. And since Brooks couldn’t even figure who to address, or who was writing what, I suppose we all sometimes have problems with “getting facts wrong.”

Brooks, should I expect an apology for the lack of knowledge which led to your rant against something I didn’t post?

29 Kevin Levin September 25, 2009 at 11:52 am

Richard Williams,

I knew you would find a way to dodge the issue. No, readers are not expected to display mastery of the subject, but some basic understanding is assumed. On this one you fall short. You chimed in because of your post on this subject in which you complained that Harry Smelter didn’t give the book a fair shake. Apparently, you didn’t either. Sorry to see that you are standing by your comments re: Crocker. That’s pretty sad. I thought you were supposed to be the champion of legitimate history as opposed to the biased books that you believe to be dominating the market? The book can’t even get the basic facts right and you apparently don’t see that.

30 BP September 25, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Richard G.,

“Your accurate statement suggests that worthy goal may best have been accomplished some other way than the loss of 600,000 + lives.”

I agree completely, but what are you intimating? What does “what if” have to do with it?

31 Brooks Simpson September 25, 2009 at 7:31 pm

Richard, you posted what you posted. It was incorrect. But you’re right, I was hard on you. My apologies. As for Richard Williams, I’m not terribly concerned about what you expect. But it is funny to see you complaining about anyone ranting.

32 Brooks Simpson September 25, 2009 at 7:48 pm

If emancipation’s a worthy goal, and doing it peacefully would have spared 640,000 lives, then guess who has it within their power to spare those lives by freeing their slaves? [Talk about over-simplification(!) - RW]

I never thought Richard Williams would point to slaveholders as responsible for such slaughter, but he has. Amazing. How PC of him. :) [Yes, both slaveholders and slave-traders were responsible, as I've noted numerous times before. - RW]

33 Brooks Simpson September 25, 2009 at 8:08 pm

I gather Richard Williams does admit saying this:

“Certainly, Crocker’s collection of factoids and essays are not meant to be a scholarly, in-depth study of the WBTS. The book is, however, meant to challenge some popular myths surrounding the war and do it in a popular, somewhat witty, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, entertaining style; which it does very well. Crocker is a gifted writer.”

And yet, when I demonstrate that Mr. Crocker is a crock when it comes to Reconstruction, [By pointing to one word. - RW] Richard Williams, that defender of all that is true and right in American history, remains silent about his endorsement of the book.

Oh, by the way, I don’t expect an admission of wrongdoing from Mr. Williams. I just wanted to remind people of the sort of history he endorses … factually inaccurate history. He’s had a chance to admit Crocker’s wrong about Reconstruction, and yet he remains silent. [Rather impatient, isn't he? - RW]

Just what I would expect.

34 Kevin Levin September 26, 2009 at 1:02 am

Brooks,

I pointed to the very same passage in a previous comment. Not surprisingly, Williams never addressed it and I don’t expect him to. [Surprise, surprise! - RW] His typical response is to distract the reader with something else entirely or complain that you misrepresented his view. And you are absolutely right. As long as you agree with RW there is no bias to worry about. So much for credibility.

35 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 26, 2009 at 2:56 am

Bob:

“What if” cooler heads would have prevailed and a peaceful resolution, including the freeing of slaves, could have been negotiated. That’s what I meant. I would think that avoiding 600,000 deaths would be something worth pursuing, wouldn’t you?

KL – I’ll come back to the my comments on Mr. Crocker’s book, along with your criticisms, on my blog soon. Of course slaveholders were partly responsible for the slaughter. Your constant wrong assumptions about what I believe makes you look extremely foolish.

Brooks:

I’m not really surprised you wouldn’t admit your confusion over being able to figure out who wrote what or offer an apology for wrongly attributing the other Richard’s comments to me.

36 Kevin Levin September 26, 2009 at 3:05 am

Richard Williams,

Just as I predicted. I knew I was misrepresenting you by citing your own words. Your comments are clear and represent an endorsement of a book that is fundamentally flawed. Deal with it. To be honest, I don’t really care what you think of this book because I do not consider you to be any kind of authority on the history it supposedly covers.

37 BP September 26, 2009 at 4:52 am

Richard,

” ‘What if’ cooler heads would have prevailed and a peaceful resolution, including the freeing of slaves, could have been negotiated. That’s what I meant. I would think that avoiding 600,000 deaths would be something worth pursuing, wouldn’t you?”

I thought you meant something like this, but I didn’t want to assume anything. The problem with this “what if” is that negotiations had been going on for decades. Compromises had been made repeatedly, yet despite all the compromises, when Lincoln was elected (in a legitimate election) southern slave holders decided negotiations were no longer possible and resorted to armed rebellion and secession.

38 Kevin Levin September 26, 2009 at 4:58 am

Bob,

I think that is the right way to look at it. We could add that the interests of Southern slave owners were clearly protected/reinforced by the Federal Government up until Lincoln’s election. Of course, I mean this on the level of perception since Lincoln and the Republicans were not interested in legislating against slavery in the Old South. Lincoln’s election clearly led to the secession of the Deep South where the staunchest defenders of slave interests resided.

39 Brooks Simpson September 26, 2009 at 11:23 am

“I’m not really surprised you wouldn’t admit your confusion over being able to figure out who wrote what or offer an apology for wrongly attributing the other Richard’s comments to me.”

I attributed Richard’s comments to Richard, Mr. Williams. That you suspect that apply to you is interesting, especially in light of the fact that others say they do describe you.

As you have seen fit not to retract your endorsement of the Crocker book in light of the inaccuracies that have been highlighted in this thread, well, then you aren’t in much of a position to demand or expect anything. But what we have learned is that you in fact haven’t even read the very documents upon which people like you base a claim of American exceptionalism, because, if you had, you would have known Crocker was wrong.

So why do you deliberately endorse bad history? Is it out of ignorance (which would remove you as a valid opinion on the works you comment on) or out of deliberate distortion of the historical record to satisfy your own prejudices (in which case, reader beware)? You can’t use the ignorance excuse any more.

In short, you’ve basically confessed that you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to American history, and you respond to what you read based on your own prejudices, not the actual record. If this was not the case, you would have immediately retracted your earlier endorsement of the Crocker book.

So, if you want people to retract or apologize for making mistakes, perhaps you had better set the example by writing a long post in your own blog about your own mistakes when it comes to endorsing the Crocker book, and your confession of your ignorance of the basic facts of Reconstruction [once again, it was the "other" Richard who "confessed" that, revealing that Simpson is still confused at this point - RW] and of the Constitution itself. Otherwise, you would reveal yourself as being quite the hypocrite. You should not ask of others what you evidently can’t ask of yourself.

In short, what you complain does not apply to you applies to you, and you’ve proved it.

Oh, and by the way, you assailed Jim Epperson for not reading books which he has seen fit to criticize. I’d suggest you might watch out, lest your own standards be applied to you. For some reason, for example, I doubt you’ve read Howard Zinn. Now, I don’t find Zinn’s version of American history particularly insightful, except as an illustration of a certain perspective, but at least I’ve read it. But I’ve seen no evidence that you’ve read many (if any) of the books you see fit to assail.

40 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 26, 2009 at 11:52 am

Kevin:

I assume you read that I would respond on my blog about Crocker’s book and I will. Be patient. You’ve assailed my credibility before Kevin. I think everyone knows what you think. Of course, you have your own issues in that category as well. I get emails about it all the time.

Brooks, you wrote:

“I attributed Richard’s comments to Richard, Mr. Williams. That you suspect that apply to you is interesting, especially in light of the fact that others say they do describe you.”

Right. That’s why KL had to clarify that there were two Richards commenting so you weren’t confused. The “other” Richard did not mention American exceptionalism, I did. I did not mention the Klan, the “other” Richard did. You jumped from addressing the other Richard’s comments to remarking about something I said on my blog. You need to go back and read your own comments. You’re still very confused. Kevin, can you help him out some more?

No demand, its just good manners to apologize when you criticize someone in error by confusing them with someone else, which is what you did, and which Kevin pointed out to you. And, no, I’m not retracting my endorsement of Crocker’s book. I stand by what I said and will discuss further on my blog.

I confessed nothing. Please don’t put words in my mouth. You’ve already done that once and shown you didn’t even know who was commenting. You’re beginning to sound a little incoherent.

Regarding Zinn, why would I want to read his hyper-leftist writings? I’ve read enough of his writings to know it would be a waste of my time. (BTW, did you read all of Crocker’s book? “What’s good for the goose . . . “) I’ve got more books on my reading list than I’ll ever be able to get to now. I’m certainly not going to waist my time reading someone like Zinn.

41 Kevin Levin September 26, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Richard Williams,

I don’t need to read your response. Your words are sufficient. That you do not retract your support for this book says all that needs to be said about your level of understanding of history. Yes, I have challenged your credibility and I’ve provided reasons for doing so. I stand by those statements. You have done the same thing on your blog so don’t for a minute attempt to play the victim with me. Like I said, you always find a way to avoid being pinned down.

I have no doubt that your readers send you emails about me, but that only shows that they read my blog. And that speaks volumes to me.

42 Brooks Simpson September 26, 2009 at 3:44 pm

Richard Williams declares: “Regarding Zinn, why would I want to read his hyper-leftist writings? I’ve read enough of his writings to know it would be a waste of my time.”

And yet this is what Richard Williams told Jim Epperson in discussing Crocker’s book:

“It’s rather silly of you to debate its merits, and the author’s points, while at the same time admitting you haven’t read it.”

http://oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com/2009/03/harry-on-harry-and-me-on-harry-and.html

Then Mr. Williams closed the comments to hostile fire.

I believe this is what is meant by hypocrisy.

Bravo, Mr. Williams, for admitting that you still endorse factually-flawed history.

As for what Kevin knew or didn’t know, Mr. Williams, if you read his response to my first post, he identified “Richard” as you. I simply took advantage of the confusion and drew you out, because I was curious as to what would happen once you were exposed to the blogging world as a fraud. But I simply responded to “Richard,” Mr. Williams. I can’t help what you assume.

Given your muddle logic, Mr. Williams, it’s ironic that you would charge anyone with being incoherent.

And, from the same exchange on your own blog:

“Great comeback James. Any time someone disagrees with academic orthodoxy, its a rant.”

And yet let’s look at what you say above:

“Brooks, should I expect an apology for the lack of knowledge which led to your rant against something I didn’t post?”

In other words, Mr. Williams, a “rant,” according to you, is any post that disagrees with your view of the world. The only lack of knowledge in this exchange concerns what Mr. Crocker and you know about Reconstruction. The other Richard acknowledged his lack of knowledge: you do not. [Again, it was the "other" Richard who made the comment about Reconstruction, not me. Simpson is still confused at this point. - RW] That shortcoming is now evident to all.

So continue to endorse false history. At least it’s now out there for all to see, since you can’t close these comments.

You’ve been taken, Mr. Williams, and a very delightful taking it was. I couldn’t have done it without you. Have a nice day.

43 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 26, 2009 at 5:55 pm

Kevin:

Most of the emails to which I allude have come from other CW bloggers. And, as you and Brooks so often quote and refer to me here, it’s obvious your readers read my blog as well. Some of them comment there, some don’t, but they do email me as well.

Brooks:

Zinn is an admitted leftist pushing a leftist agenda:

“Objectivity is impossible and it is also undesirable. That is, if it were possible it would be undesirable, because if you have any kind of a social aim, if you think history should serve society in some way; should serve the progress of the human race; should serve justice in some way, then it requires that you should make your selection on the basis of what you think will advance causes of humanity.”
~ Howard Zinn

“I wanted my writing of history and my teaching of history to be a part of social struggle. I wanted to be a part of history and not just a recorder and teacher of history. So that kind of attitude towards history, history itself as a political act, has always informed my writing and my teaching.” ~ Howard Zinn

I have read enough of his works to come to an informed decision in the context of this discussion. How much excrement does one have to taste before he realizes its unwise to continue? Epperson’s comments about Crocker’s book, to which I was responding, were more detailed and I believe my criticism was appropriate. Your comparison is not an accurate one, though in short blog comments like this, easy to make it appear as though it is. So the hypocrisy charge is invalid. Yes, I close comments from time to time, as many bloggers (including Kevin) do. Most times, I close them because I become bored and/or those debating an issue are simply repeating the same points. There does come a point when enough is enough. You see that as an opportunity to charge that it was because of hostile fire? I’ve never banned anyone from commenting on my blog. The same cannot be said about some blogs.

“As for what Kevin knew or didn’t know, Mr. Williams, if you read his response to my first post, he identified “Richard” as you. I simply took advantage of the confusion and drew you out, because I was curious as to what would happen once you were exposed to the blogging world as a fraud. But I simply responded to “Richard,” Mr. Williams. I can’t help what you assume.”

Yeah, right. You and Kevin were in on the conspiracy together, right? I suppose you strategized in “drawing me out” and that is why he tried to relieve you of “the confusion.” Anyone reading that string of comments can clearly see you did not realize to whom you were commenting and which “Richard” said what. And now you’re saying that was intentional and some brilliant plan on your part to trap me? So who is the real fraud? (By the way, how does one take advantage of his own confusion?)

“The other Richard acknowledged his lack of knowledge: you do not. That shortcoming is now evident to all.” [Note Simpson now attributes the "acknowledgement/confession" to the correct Richard. - RW]

Yes, I see that when the other Richard admitted his inferiority to your superior intellect, you granted him absolution. How very gracious of you (and humble too).

I’ve “been taken”? Really? Are you sure, this time, which Richard you’re speaking to? I don’t believe I would characterize our exchange as “delightful.” It has, however, been interesting to observe such hubris on public display for all the world to see. You have a nice day too.

44 Kevin Levin September 27, 2009 at 1:01 am

Richard Williams,

While I disagree with much of what Zinn has written about American history, his “exrement” is 10x more interesting than anything you’ve written. But if Zinn’s leftist agenda is a sufficient reason to dismiss him out of hand than I also assume your right wing agenda is as much of a reason to dismiss the few things you’ve published. Haven’t you gone just as far as Zinn in revealing your political/social/cultural bias? Your choice of quotes seems to imply that it is possible to distinguish between one’s political views and the actual historical interpretation. But if that is the case you rarely follow along. Most of your commentary about academic Civil War history is nothing more than vague generalizations and assumptions about its political/cultural bias. I read this as just more evidence that you haven’t really read that much academic history – at least I can’t find much of anything in your Online library. As far as I can tell most of your criticisms of Zinn can just as easily be applied to you.

45 ST September 27, 2009 at 1:34 am

Brooks,

I agree with most everything you have said here. I also understand that you are an expert on Reconstruction and respect that. In following this discussion, it was my understanding that you did confuse the two men who are named “Richard”, however. If you had not confused them, I do not think you would have been so harsh in your initial response, because you are always fair to readers who lack a background in history when you comment. If this was a strategy to encourage Richard Williams to respond, I did not understand that. I add this comment for the sake of fairness. You have stated that you did not confuse the two men, so I believe you. That was not clear as the thread progressed, at least not to me. The strength of your argument was not diluted because of the confusion, so the issue is, in the end, a non-issue.

“Richard version 2”: I offer respect to you. You have been spoken of almost in third person, as if you are not there.

Richard Williams: You do ban people on your blog.

All: I, like other readers of this blog, lack a background in history. That does not mean that I am “ignorant”, or that other readers are “ignorant”. That means we lack a background in history.

Kevin: Thank you,

ST

46 Richard G. Williams, Jr. September 27, 2009 at 4:03 am

Kevin:

I do respect Zinn for his honesty. He’s very up front about his beliefs, as am I. (Read my header. I let people know where I’m coming from.) It’s left up to each individual reader to decide which (or neither) biases are closer to the truth. The biggest problem I have is with those, like you, who proclaim they are above it all and objective, when your bias, agenda, and political views are every bit as clear. The same with Brooks Simpson.

And most of your commentary about Confederate history, as it relates to various aspects of Southern heritage and culture, is nothing more than vague generalizations and assumptions and reveals your cultural/political bias.

My focus on reading is biography, which I believe is the best way to study history, as well as the most entertaining and enlightening. What you, as a liberal academic, believe are the best books to read, means absolutely nothing to me. I reject the faddish books on history which echo what academia expects every one to open wide and swallow. And I’ve not taken the time to list every book in my library, (which is admittedly modest - about 1200 titles at last count) though a couple that are listed actually happen to be ones you’ve recommended. Imagine that.

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First, both Levin and Simpson erect a straw man by implying that I endorsed Crocker's book as an "academic" historical study of the WBTS. I did no such thing. Yes, I endorsed the book and still do, but I SPECIFICALLY AND PURPOSELY characterized the book as, "academic inquiry for Joe the Plumber" and that is was "written mostly for a general audience and not for academic peers. Thus, the authors are not constrained to follow politically correct dogma and kiss the ring of the court historians. Yet they serve a useful purpose in revealing that there is much more to the subjects addressed than what the PC elites in academia and the media are force feeding us—the statist approved version. They provide a good place to start an inquiry and provide sources for further study." (See original post here.)

And in another post, I characterized Crocker's book in this way:

"Certainly, Crocker's collection of factoids and essays are not meant to be a scholarly, in-depth study of the WBTS. The book is, however, meant to challenge some popular myths surrounding the war and do it in a popular, somewhat witty, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, entertaining style; which it does very well. Crocker is a gifted writer." (See original post here.)

And the criticisms over my endorsement beg the question, to wit: Does one's endorsement of a particular book require that the endorser agree with every aspect and statement in the book? That's ludicrous and intellectually dishonest.

The additional logical fallacies employed in the comments by both Levin and Simpson are so numerous and sophomoric as to be embarrassing. Pointing out each and every one of them would be a waste of time, as most readers here will easily detect them.

Finally, regarding the criticism of Crocker's book, the comments and posts, at least to this point, seem to reveal much more about Levin's and Simpson's provincial prejudices and narrow views regarding certain Southerners and their perspecitves regarding their history than it does anything about the book in question. The criticisms over the book seem to me to be based more on style (Crocker's pro-South perspective) than over substance.